# Router v2.0.0-pre6 deletes all terminators after ~12 minutes due to post-create inspect timeout with stable SDK clients **URL:** \ **Category:** Ziti Overlay\ **Created:** [March 19, 2026, 8:39pm UTC](https://openziti.discourse.group/t/router-v2-0-0-pre6-deletes-all-terminators-after-12-minutes-due-to-post-create-inspect-timeout-with-stable-sdk-clients/5711 "2026-03-19T20:39:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![msbusk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/openziti.discourse.group/msbusk/32/4324_2.png) [@msbusk](https://openziti.discourse.group/u/msbusk)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2026, 8:39pm UTC](https://openziti.discourse.group/t/router-v2-0-0-pre6-deletes-all-terminators-after-12-minutes-due-to-post-create-inspect-timeout-with-stable-sdk-clients/5711/1 "2026-03-19T20:39:47Z")
Environment: - Controller: openziti/ziti-controller:2.0.0-pre6 (Docker) - Router: openziti/ziti-router:2.0.0-pre6 (Docker) - SDK clients: ziti-edge-tunnel v1.11.1 (Windows, latest stable) + ziti-sdk-c on Linux hosts - Deployment: Single controller, single router, ~700 services/terminators Problem: After upgrading from v2.0.0-pre3 to v2.0.0-pre6, all terminators (~700) are created successfully on router startup, but are systematically deleted approximately 12 minutes later, leaving only ~23 terminators. This cycle repeats on every router restart. Root cause analysis: Through log analysis, we identified the following sequence: 1. Router starts and creates ~730 terminators as expected 2. Router sends post-create inspect requests (message type 60799) to SDK clients for each terminator 3. SDK clients (ziti-edge-tunnel v1.11.1 / ziti-sdk-c) advertise SupportsInspectHeader=true in their bind requests, but do not understand or handle message type 60799 4. Router logs confirm the SDK clients drop the messages: "dropped message. type [60799]" 5. After ~10 minutes + 3 retries (hardcoded in hostedServiceRegistry.evaluatePostCreateInspects), the router marks all terminators as state=3 (deleting) with reason: "post-create inspect timed out" 6. Router batch-deletes all terminators via evaluateDeleteQueue / RemoveTerminatorsRateLimited 7. Result: ~700 terminators deleted, services become unreachable Relevant log entries: Router (inspect timeout triggering deletion): "msg":"post-create inspect: timed out waiting for response, closing terminator" "msg":"updated state","newState":3,"oldState":2,"reason":"post-create inspect timed out" Router (SDK clients dropping inspect messages): "msg":"dropped message. type [60799], sequence [98], replyFor [97]" Controller (router requesting batch deletions): "msg":"removed terminators","routerId":"8SGqhnW74C","terminatorIds":["...50 IDs..."] Timeline from logs (per restart cycle): - T+0min: Router starts, ~730 terminators created - T+12min: evaluatePostCreateInspects times out, all terminators moved to state=3 - T+12min: evaluateDeleteQueue batch-deletes all terminators - T+12min+: Only ~23 terminators remain (those from the router's own built-in tunneler or non-inspect sources) Impact: All services hosted by SDK-based tunnelers become unreachable. The issue is self-perpetuating — restarting the router temporarily restores service for ~12 minutes before the cycle repeats. Workaround: Rolling the router back to v2.0.0-pre3 resolves the issue, as pre3 does not include the post-create inspect feature. Suggestion: The post-create inspect feature appears to be incompatible with the current stable SDK release (ziti-edge-tunnel v1.11.1 / ziti-sdk-c 1.11.4). Possible fixes: - Make post-create inspect timeout behavior configurable (disable or extend timeout) - Fall back gracefully when inspect response is not received (keep terminator alive instead of deleting) - Ensure the stable SDK release supports the inspect message type before enabling it on the router side ---
**Author:** ![plorenz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/openziti.discourse.group/plorenz/32/54_2.png) [@plorenz](https://openziti.discourse.group/u/plorenz)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2026, 1:33am UTC](https://openziti.discourse.group/t/router-v2-0-0-pre6-deletes-all-terminators-after-12-minutes-due-to-post-create-inspect-timeout-with-stable-sdk-clients/5711/2 "2026-03-21T01:33:37Z")
Thank you for the bug report. Very clear and helpful! I'll work with the c-sdk folks to make sure we resolve with a -pre7. Cheers, Paul ---
**Author:** ![plorenz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/openziti.discourse.group/plorenz/32/54_2.png) [@plorenz](https://openziti.discourse.group/u/plorenz)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2026, 3:47am UTC](https://openziti.discourse.group/t/router-v2-0-0-pre6-deletes-all-terminators-after-12-minutes-due-to-post-create-inspect-timeout-with-stable-sdk-clients/5711/3 "2026-03-21T03:47:16Z")
I think we've resolved the issue. -pre7 is tagged and building and will be available shortly. Thank you again for testing and reporting issues, much appreciated. Paul ---
**Author:** ![msbusk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/openziti.discourse.group/msbusk/32/4324_2.png) [@msbusk](https://openziti.discourse.group/u/msbusk)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2026, 7:17am UTC](https://openziti.discourse.group/t/router-v2-0-0-pre6-deletes-all-terminators-after-12-minutes-due-to-post-create-inspect-timeout-with-stable-sdk-clients/5711/4 "2026-03-21T07:17:32Z")
That is great thanks a lot I will test the new pre release, I have an feeling we are getting close to the final release of 2.0 and that is great that’s for your efforts building this great project